Comments on: You Don’t Need A Framework If You Have A Good Developer

By: Amber Weinberg

Amber Weinberg — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:53:39 +0000

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, even snarky ones.

By: qwerty

qwerty — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:51:49 +0000

Why would I take programming advice from non-programmer? Anyone who says “XHTML, CSS and WordPress development” in their bio, is NOT a programmer by any stretch.

Frameworks can save a ton of time, provided that it:

1. Doesn’t force anything you don’t need.
2. Is flexible enough to easily remove bit and pieces as needed and add other bit and pieces.

I generally prefer libraries to frameworks, but will happily use frameworks that save me months of development time.

BTW: WordPress, besides being a horribly designed program is a framework of sorts. So you are pretty much contradicting yourself.

By: arnold

arnold — Wed, 19 May 2010 17:14:03 +0000

Ive heard this thesis theme , and damn you have to pay for this. Anyway I cant say anything much because I havent use the thesis theme. This post reminds me when CSS and javascript frameworks just emerge , then I refuse to use it… lol now Im using it.

By: Cody

Cody — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:24:35 +0000

I am personally still a pretty novice developer, so I’m sure I still fall under the ‘bad code’ category in some areas, but I find that frameworks can be nice. I use Bluetrip to set up a baseline of styles and to help me lay out of my website faster when I am doing a fixed width site (doesn’t help a lot when I need to do a fluid/fixed hybrid like I am now). I guess for me it is mostly just a good starting point, though I would definitely say that over time a developer could code their own baseline framework and that would be better because it would have just what they needed and would be in their style, I’ve just not really had time to accrue the experience and all needed for that quite yet.

By: ryanMoultrup

ryanMoultrup — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:09:09 +0000

When it comes to building sites with WordPress, Joomla or any other CMS. I consider those the framework. I have skeleton templates for the CMS’s that I work with. That’s about as far as I go. I can’t stand working with CSS so-called-frameworks. I write faster and better code by hand. Every site is unique and I find it much easier to build from the ground up than mess around with what someone else has done.

One the other hand working with PHP frameworks is a life saver. There is no sense of coding out session handling, database connections etc. every time you build a site. Even the more complete frameworks such as WordPress and Joomla seriously cut down on development time. Imagine if you had to code the first blog you built by hand.

By: Amber Weinberg

Amber Weinberg — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:27:09 +0000

No I meant more of the 960 CSS grid and Thesis. I don’t necessary consider jQuery to be a framework, but I guess it is But to me, jQuery doesn’t really affect your coding like using a pre-made template for the actual site.